DEAN HAGLUND - "X-Files" / "The Lone Gunmen"
K2K: Were here with Dean Haglund.
DH: Hey, how are you?
K2K: Haglund. So youre Swedish?
DH: Well, my dads Swedish. Im technically Canadian. And now that would make me Swedish-Canadian.
K2K: Could it also be [pronounced] Haglünd?
DH: Yes, but then it would be German, with the umlauts above the u.
K2K: How very Motörhead of you.
DH: Far too metal.
DH: Yeah, Dethklok.
K2K: So, other than Dean, youre of course known as Richard Ringo Langly, of the Lone Gunmen, on X-Files.
DH: I am.
K2K: Has that haunted you, or do you enjoy being that?
DH: I enjoy it. Its a pleasure. That was the least amount of work for the most amount of exposure that any actor could possibly do. Just one or two episodes. I got to wear my own jeans. I didnt have to put on alien make-up. Nothing like that. Just say your lines in English and they send you home.
K2K: Was that your own hair?
DH: That was my own hair. Yeah. That was my own hair, and then I cut it all off on stage, as a comedy bit at the Improv on Melrose [Ave, Los Angeles]. Then two years ago, one of the [trading] card companies came up and said, Whatd you do with your hair? They showed me wardrobe cards and some sand, from the Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. Do you remember that card? Its worth $175. Its just the sand from her ass. So they take my hair, and they put it in trading cards.
K2K: Hmm thats creepy, and maybe cool.
DH: I dont know. The jurys out. But he said theyre selling like hot cakes downstairs [in the Exhibit Hall of Comic Con], so I dont know. So if they can figure out my DNA and clone me, Id like them to send me a clone.
K2K: Wow. I didnt even think about that aspect.
K2K: Well, better if its the Upper Deck trading card company.
DH: Yeah, yeah. (laughs)
K2K: As opposed to Lower Deck. That would be another company.
DH: Yeah, that would be weird.
K2K: Im getting creepier now.
K2K: How close are you, personally, to your [Langly] character?
DH: Well, lets see. I dont hack into government sites. I pay my taxes. Ixnay on whatever
K2K: Youre Canadian.
DH: Well, Im paying U.S. taxes now. But I do know my way around computers. And I had a major in theater, and I did my electives in physics and electrothermal dynamics.
K2K: What about the other two? How close were they to their characters?
DH: Ahh Tom [Braidwood], who played [Melvin] Frohike, hes pretty close. When they were casting, they had trouble finding Frohike. They said, We need someone short and weasel-y who always hits on Scully like the First AD, Tom. Why dont we just have him come in.
K2K: He was an AD?
DH: Yeah, he was the Assistant Director on the X-Files, for all nine seasons. He maintained, even after he was [done] acting, he still ADd all the other shows.
K2K: Did he always hit on Gillian [Anderson]?
DH: Yeah, he always did. He was always flirting. It was very funny, charming. You knew it was never going to happen.
K2K: What about the other guy [Bruce Harwood]?
DH: The other guy. Hes bookish. He likes to read. He has a subscription to The Guardian.
K2K: Isnt that a Jehovahs [Witness] thing?
DH: No! Its a British newspaper. Hes a sweatshirts and jeans guy. He felt uncomfortable in a suit, and hes normally clean-shaven. He grew the beard for another role, but they said, Keep the beard.
K2K: Is that true that they told Gillian, We have no room for moles here.? And that was why they covered it [Gillians facial mole] up with make-up?
DH: No. I didnt hear that one.
K2K: Chris Carter, when they were doing the make-up, apparently had said, We dont have room for moles. Cover it up., or something to that effect. Thats why she never had it [visible] on the show.
DH: You know what, I dont the answer to that. I never really hung out with Gillians make-up people to hear that story.
K2K: Keeping in that you had your real hair did you use conditioner?
DH: Did I ever! Holy Crap, did I have to! Deya Lazatrique (sic), was a brand that only professionals use. They would buy that for me. Then after the series ended, I thought, Oh, I should get that Lazatrique. It was like $172. for a 12-ounce tube, that theyd been putting in my hair that whole time.
DH: I know! Thats what I said, Jesus!
K2K: Mayonnaise works better.
DH: Cutting it off is the easiest thing.
K2K: How was it working with David [Duchovny] and Gillian, and Chris Carter?
DH: Everyone was great. Family. Theyre all hilarious. Ouch!
[As we were speaking outside in the back patio of the convention hall, a kid had come running past, attempted to run around a circular table, and promptly slipped on some littered fliers, hitting the ground full force, full body, like a simulated skateboarding accident.]
K2K: Wow! Could you do that again please? Welcome to YouTube. And the best part, no skateboard.
DH: Note to anyone who comes to Comic Con, I recommend that you do not run past the flier trash. Thats real brilliance. (everyone laughing)
K2K: OK, so
DH: So everyone was hilarious, thats the thing. When you saw the show, it was almost different personalities than how you knew them.
K2K: How is Chris? Is he cool? A dictator?
DH: Oh, hes the most laid-back executive producer that you ever saw in your life. He wrote for Surfing Magazine for 13 years. So hes like the total, Hey man, how are ya? But, what a memory! He remembers almost everybody who ever auditioned for him. He did this thing A friend of mine, Phil Hayes, a great actor, superb voice-over. On Season Two, he played a sheriff, for one day, in Season Two, up in Vancouver. The show moved down to Los Angeles. Im living down to Los Angeles. Phil comes down. I said, Im going to set. He said, Hey, do you mind if I come with you to set? Id like to reintroduce myself to Chris. You know, maybe get on another episode. [Chris says]Oh yeah, come on in. I said, Hey Chris, how are you? And I was just about to say, This is when [Chris says] Hey, you were the sheriff in Season Two. Phil, Phil Hayes. Just like that. And that had been a span of five or six years. He had to have seen how many hundreds of actors, how many thousands of people? And he had all that memorized.
DH: Hes [Chris] also a potter.
K2K: A potter? You mean like a Harry Potter?
DH: No. Like a professional, spin the clay on the wheel, potter.
K2K: I thought this was going to be a 420 comment.
DH: No, no, no. No pot. Nothing like that. (laughs) He would do 300 plates per day, before he made it big. That was one of his day jobs. So when he would be really stressed out and ripe, he would actually go to a studio and just spin clay, spin plates. Just zen out and clear his mind.
K2K: You mean on set?
DH: No, there was a place out in Santa Monica that was still manufacturing plates. He would just go, sit down, and grab a wheel. It was the weirdest thing.
K2K: You had the spin-off series, The Lone Gunmen. How did that come about? Why did you do it? And why did it end?
DH: Wow! You know what?
K2K: Buy the comic book?
DH: Thats how long a story it is, that I drew a comic book. It came about a shock to us. Everybody loved it. Reviews were great. And then it ended so abruptly that there was something else going on.
K2K: How many episodes?
DH: 13 episodes. Midseason replacement.
K2K: One season? Or, half.
DH: Half. Unless youre from England, thats a full series, as they say. Then they had three more seasons, ready to go, all sketched out.
K2K: What was the purpose of doing the spin-off series on the Lone Gunmen? The characters were great, but I didnt see a reason to do it.
DH: I think the idea was that the X-Files arc had gone. They wanted to explore more conspiracy theories going on, but have a humorous bent to it, so that it wasnt so dark and pedantic.
K2K: Was that Chris saying that?
DH: It was Chris. But it was the other writers too. They really had a sense of humor. Vince Gilligan, he just wrote Hancock and Breaking Bad. He, more than anyone, embraced the Lone Gunmen ethos really hardcore. Hes the one who took [the show ending] the hardest.
K2K: Even though you werent on this show, but [Chris Carters] Millennium got changed in the middle because it got too dark, right?
DH: Yeah. Well, also Chris went back to muscle the X-Files back into shape, because there was a time when he split and they thought X-Files was suffering. Space: Above & Beyond was canceled. So James Wong and Glen Morgan were told, Hey, man. Dont worry about your series being canceled. You can go work on Millennium. Just go back and do whatever you were doing before. So they were so pissed off that wrote this really dark X-Files episode.
K2K: Which one was that?
DH: Home. With the Peacock brothers and the mother
K2K: Yeah, yeah. You know, I had a problem watching the end of that.
DH: Yeah, that was never meant to be filmed. They wrote something so toxic that they thought it would never make it past.
K2K: I dont even know how it made it on TV, or even cable.
DH: Heres what happened. Everybody thought, Oh good, Glen and Jim are writing a script. We have nothing to worry about. Were really behind on production. Blah, blah, blah. OK, we have three days to look at the next series. Lets see what Glen and Jim wrote. WHAT THE?!? Holy crap!
K2K: Incest. Cannibalism. What else was in there?
DH: It was a mother with no limbs, who lived under the bed, whom the brothers would have sex with, to have other brothers with. Oh God! That was really well written.
K2K: Me and my girlfriend were really hardcore fans. You have no idea what a religion that show was. I just remember when [that episode] came on. We watched it, and about halfway in, we didnt know if we were going to puke or what. I like dark, but that was way over bounds.
DH: Heres the thing - Fox said that was too dark. We will never air that again. But then FX did the Thanksgiving [X-Files] Marathon, and you had to vote for your favorite episode. So, Home won. So of course Fox said, Oh yeah, thats our favorite too. Well rerun it all the time. So, that changed everything.
K2K: Oh God.
DH: I know.
K2K: In the spinoff series [The Lone Gunmen], did you expect to get canceled that fast?
DH: No, no. They were telling us, This is going for a long time. They were building permanent sets on the stage. It felt like it was going to be a long time there.
K2K: But the show didnt really have anything to do with X-Files did it?
DH: Yeah. No. Well, Skinner showed up. Scully showed up in different episodes. So we were still the guys in the universe. But once they realized, Of course. They have a little newspaper called, The Lone Gunmen. Theyre like reporters. Its almost more like Kolchak: The Night Stalker.
K2K: What about you guys getting killed off. That bothered me. It really bothered me. That show was such a religion.
DH: Well, thank you. Even The Ramones called me and said they cried.
K2K: The Ramones?
DH: Well, Joey died. Then I went to do Joey Ramones birthday party, which is a benefit for Lymphoma Cancer [Research]. There I met Johnny, Joeys mother, the Ramones financial planner, and of course Marky. Dee Dee had just passed on. Anyway, it was weird to hear The Ramones cry. I preferred that we went like that, as opposed to walking off into the sunset with a stick and a hobo bag.
DH: Yeah. That would have just said we dont care.
K2K: Well, that would have given some hope then.
DH: Hope? Well, you never saw our bodies in the coffins. When you are infected with a virus, the Level 5 quarantine hermetically sealed steel coffins are supposed to be fitted to the size of the person whos infected. So, all three coffins were the exact same size, one gunmen is shorter than the other two. That means that we may not have been in them. Aah? Come on! Let your secret out.
K2K: Is there a possibility that theyll do another [X-Files] series, or even a mini-series?
DH: There are some top-secret things going on.
K2K: Does it depend on how the [new] movie [X-Files: I Want To Believe] does?
DH: No. Its completely independent of how the movie does. Ill tell you. Go to my website to find out more. http://www.deanhaglund.com
K2K: Of course. I did that yesterday.
DH: (laughs) Did you?
K2K: Four in the morning, bleary-eyed, doing my research on everybody [for interviews].
DH: I thought you just knew the stuff off the top of your head.
K2K: I know a lot of stuff. Just not the later stuff. Were you as sad about dying as Are you sad about dying? (laughs)
DH: I was happy, actually. I got a call from Frank [Spotnitz, producer], who said, Dude, were going to kill you off. I said, Thank God. Absolutely. It was the last season. There should be a go out in a blaze of glory, as opposed to, Oh yeah, and the Gunmen. Eh.
K2K: What ever happened to the other freaky conspiracy guy in the trailer?
DH: Oh, youre thinking of Max. He died when that airplane and abduction, and was never seen again.
(As crowds were gathering in line for a panel meeting in the building, we took a break to move our seats and then continued.)
K2K: Were you afraid of dying?
DH: No. No, it was great. It was fantastic and fun to do and I was happy. All the fans disagree, but I thought it was awesome.
K2K: I have the companion book to the X-Files. [The Real Science Behind The X-Files by Anne Simon, Ph.D.]
DH: The one that Brian Lowry wrote.
K2K: Depends which one youre talking about. Its the one that talks about Chris Carter being a fan of the paranormal, and that a lot of the [series] stories are based on facts.
K2K: Like Firestarter, is based on actual people who can start fires with their minds. There are two people in the world who can do that. One in Italy and one in Russia.
K2K: To your knowledge, how close is that to the truth, that Chris based the stories on those?
DH: You know whats interesting, is that when you go to their writers office - Vince, Chris, and even Frank - normally, when you see a Hollywood writer, you see The History Of Hollywood, Sid Fields How To Write A Screenplay book. You know, a couple of New York Times reference library books. That sort of general library. When you go see Frank and Chris and Vinces library, its Early Religions Before Mythra, 19th Century Occult Dealings. There are a ton of different, obscure books like that. The Ricky Jay book. All of that stuff. They would heavily research this stuff and that would be all theyre into. I do a lot of standup comedy, so I knew a lot of people. Ive had FBI guys come up to me and ask, OK, some of that stuff you do is really close to what were working on. But I cant tell you about it. But youre doing it. Its freaking them out with how we know some of that stuff.
K2K: Really? Government conspiracy stuff?
DH: They wont even say what episode theyre referencing. They just say, That show. The subject were dealing with is really close.
K2K: Are they happy about it?
DH: Yeah, they all watched it. They all loved it. They knew it was entertainment. Perry Farrell of Janes Addiction actually hated the X-Files. He thought that by putting conspiracy theories into popular entertainment, you undermine the ability to get to the truth, because anytime you try to go after that conspiracy, they go, Woo hoo! Youre watching too many X-Files.
K2K: That was part of the X-Files episode too.
DH: The episode where they show the popularization of it?
K2K: Thats a good way for the government to cover everything up is by popularizing it.
DH: Exactly. And so Perry Farrells quote is, X-Files has set back human-alien relations by about 20 years.
K2K: Thats of course assuming
DH: Right. And he, of course, believes there is alien-human interaction. And now Astronaut [Edgar] Mitchell just went on a newscast and said, Ive seen ETs. We have government proof that theyre here. And thats Mitchell, who went up in Apollo 7. [Actually Apollo 14 - Dr. Edgar Dean Mitchell, ret. astronaut, and sixth man to walk on the moon. - Ed.]
K2K: But you know, the UFO thing, you hear people explaining it as spots and lights.
DH: And the whole ham-radio operators hearing Neil Armstrong when touching down on the moon. The second thing he said.
K2K: Oh my God, look at how big it is.? [Referring to a supposed giant UFO over the horizon.]
DH: No, Look at them all. Apparently all these space craft came over the horizon. About 12 or 15 of them. He started commenting, Oh my God. I see them all. Look at them all. They didnt transmit that on television, but ham radio operators picked all that up. Its never talked about.
K2K: He did say, Look how big it is. He saw a craft behind a hill.
DH: Thats right. Look at that size. Thats where they cut off the transmission. He was saying, Houston. Im seeing five or six things. Theres more to that, and only ham radio operators could pick that up.
K2K: Where could one pick that up [now]?
DH: I saw it at the 60th Anniversary of the Roswell Incident, in Roswell, New Mexico. They had the transcripts of the moon landing as recorded by ham radio operators.
K2K: Do you yourself have any interest in this stuff?
DH: Well, you know, I researched my character, so Im good friends with Jordan Maxwell, Dr. Roger Lear. All these guys. So its quite fascinating. I try to be skeptical. I may have compelling arguments with evidence. I get invited to the conspiracy and UFO conventions. Im compelled by their evidence and their intellect, and theyre not wild-eyed crazy. Theyre more take it or leave it.
K2K: Taking what Perry Farrell said, I wouldnt say that popularizing it makes drags it down. I would say that in news interviews, when they interview the right side, they interview somebody clean-cut in a suit. When they interview somebody else, then its the hippie guy who dropped one too many hits of the wrong acid.
DH: Well, Stephen Bassett is changing that. Hes part of the disclosure project. This is an idea that if UFOs and aliens are here, then making it classified and top secret is not helping the human race. So hes taken seriously, and for the first time, at Roswell, was front page on the Washington Post. It was a story that wasnt You are crazy.
K2K: And the governor of Arizona [Fife Symington], he finally came out and said that he indeed saw a UFO over Phoenix in 1998. I was there. I didnt see it, I was in the house. But four hours later, I saw it on the news. He said he had to downplay it [at that time], but now he came out and said he had to do that [downplay it] for political reasons, but it was all true [about the UFO sighting].
Outside of X-Files, what got you into acting?
DH: I was a ham. A child hilarity. A child class-clown. I was predestined. I had no choice.
K2K: What about your standup? What came first, acting or comedy?
DH: I actually started acting first. I was a child actor and couldnt get into comedy clubs. I was doing theater first. Then when I was old enough, I started doing comedy to pay for theater school and my way through college. So I did both.
K2K: What did you do [in comedy]?
DH: I did standup, and Theatre Sports. I was in the same group with [?] styles and common mockery for ten years. I blended the two together, where I now improvise by myself onstage. I improve episodes of the X-Files live. Im going to Scotland to do the French Festival, tomorrow.
DH: Yeah, tomorrow I fly to Scotland.
K2K: Have you worked on sitcoms?
DH: I have briefly worked on sitcoms. I was mistaken for Jenny McCarthy on Home Improvements. I travel so much that Im not in town enough to audition for sitcoms. You get to this stage that you become such a successful road comic, that you cant stay in town to audition for stuff. I havent done enough sitcoms. That will change.
K2K: So youre looking to do more stuff.
K2K: What would you be doing if not acting?
DH: What would I be doing, if not acting? I would be cartooning, I would say. That was my first love.
K2K: Youre an artist then.
DH: Yeah. I actually drew my own comic book called, Why The Lone Gunmen Was Canceled. Thats all my own artwork in there. My mom still wonders why I went into acting instead of cartooning.
K2K: She knows that people have heard of you now, right? It was something about some show
DH: Yeah. Yeah. (laughs)
K2K: Who have been your best influences, as actors, and film influences?
DH: Wow! That is so good. You know, I actually love silent films. Chaplin, Keaton, those are the ones I was watching as a kid. So those were really influential. Then, of course get the comedy albums of George Carlin and Woody Allen. I didnt collect rock albums, like normal kids. I collected comedy albums.
K2K: [George Carlins] Class Clown. [Cheech & Chongs] Big Bamboo.
DH: Class Clown I had. I had Groucho Marx Live At Carnegie Hall.
K2K: Someone brought up something the other day. He was quoting something, thinking I would never know what he was talking about. 2000 Year Old Man.
DH: Oh right! [Carl] Reiner and [Mel] Brooks. Thats a classic one.
K2K: I have that on vinyl.
DH: I have a vinyl of Don Adams doing his standup in Las Vegas, which is him as a super spy. Thats how Get Smart got started, as a standup.
K2K: Remember Red Foxx, or the other party albums?
DH: Oh yeah. I didnt get into that so much. I was looking for more obscure comedy albums. Lenny Bruce albums. Richard Pryor, sort of. He was breaking later when I was already on stage. But I was also collecting Swedish comedy albums.
K2K: You speak Swedish?
DH: No. But that was the thing. You heard timing and phrasing. So if you dont know the actual language, youre still laughing because comedy is about the timing. The best way to learn that is to pick up a comedy album in a language that you cant speak. They would actually do George Carlin bits, in Swedish. So you knew what the bit was about, but you would hear how they phrased it.
K2K: Now youre with the Groundlings?
DH: No. I do their Thursday night Cooking With Gas shows. They have guest improvisers come in and do scenes. I havent done that in a couple of years. I do that quite often.
K2K: How was it working with Pam Anderson on V.I.P.?
DH: (laughs) She was great, because shes a Vancouver girl. I knew her because one of her first boyfriends was the bartender at the comedy club I started at. He was responsible for taking her to the football game, where she showed up on the Jumbotron, where the Playboy photographer saw her. So I knew her when she was still a model for LaBlatts Blue Beer. She was the Blue Girl.
K2K: Did you know her back then? Whats changed?
DH: Shes actually very smart. She comes off dumb, because she has incredible stage fright. Shes absolutely nervous. Ive never seen anything like it. She was freaked out being in a scene with a real actor, because she doesnt think shes a real actor. But she was executive producing that show. Shes hilarious. We were doing a scene, where she improvised a line, Stop, or Ill lip gloss! We all cracked up. Thats hilarious. I said to her, Thats funny. She said, Really? Because Im going on Jay Leno tonight and Im really nervous. I said, What are you nervous about? Youre hilarious. So [on the Jay Leno show], they [introduced her], Pam, how are you? Stop, or Ill lip gloss. (shows audience silent) Oh! You have to set that bit up, Pam. Oh, geez!
K2K: She didnt really say that.
DH: She did that. That was the first thing out of her mouth. She got a big laugh [with us], and thought it would be funny.
K2K: Theres in-jokes, and then theres out-jokes.
DH: And then theres timing. You talk, and everyone hears your voice, and then you lay on the hilarity. That was unfortunate, because shes sweet.
K2K: But it makes a good story.
DH: It does.
K2K: Tell me about Rice Girl.
DH: Rice Girl. I got to improvise all my lines. Im in the front, and the back, and Im not sure what happens in the middle.
K2K: Now, outside of entertainment, lets get to the crux of who you are. The inventor.
K2K: Are you an inventor or just a one-time had a good idea?
DH: Im always tinkering and thinking of things, and trying to come up with innovative solutions. But I dont actually have a workshop with machines, and lathes. I dont have any of that. When you think of an inventor, you think of a giant garage full of tools and stuff.
K2K: You did the Chill Pak.
DH: Yes. Bring it on. Its a laptop cooling system. It goes in the freezer. It goes under the laptop and draws the heat away from the CPU. The whole thing speeds up. Its got a condensation-proof sleeve on it, so no moisture builds up on it. Its insulated on the bottom, so you can use your notebook in your lap again. It can actually be a laptop.
K2K: And for those who havent heard the current news stories, why do you want to protect your nuts?
DH: (laughs) Well, you know, as a guy, your nuts are important. The British Medical Journal just came out and said that it can actually reduce your ability to conceive.
K2K: Which a lot of guys wouldnt mind, at least not on specific Friday or Saturday nights?
DH: (laughs) Yeah, but its also not 100% effective. So if youre just putting your laptop on your nuts before you go out to party, you may get into trouble nine months later. So Im not recommending that either way.
K2K: Are you a Mac guy?
DH: Mac and PC.
K2K: So on the MacBooks, I was looking to do film editing. Ultimately you need a 7200 rpm [hard drive], which heats up the [laptop more], which Apple recommends that you not do if you can avoid it. Keep it at 5400 rpm, or the computer will heat up.
K2K: How will it work with a faster, hotter drive?
DH: Well, thats the thing. It will keep it cooler. Fans dont actually keep anything cool. Fans take ambient air and push it closer to the CPU. Hopefully your ambient air is cooler than the air around the CPU and your hard drive. When it starts heating up, your processor works slower, and your hard drive actually starts to warp, so the head cant read the disc. Which is why you get your [spinning] rainbow if youre Mac, hourglass if youre PC. So the Chill Pak is the direct application of cold. When you sprain your wrist, do you put a fan on it, or actually put a cold compress on it. This gets so cold that, while youre editing, the keys will actually be cool to the touch. It will chill right through.
K2K: Thats not a problem at all?
DH: Thats not a problem. In fact, it speeds up everything, but it doesnt freeze it. Its not going to lock it up. Its not going to crystalize. And the condensation-proof sleeve on it allows no moisture develop. So nothing inside is going to reach to a dew-point, where its going to get condensation, and no moisture is going to shut down your system.
K2K: The basic thing to look at it is to think of an ice-pack that you would chill your beer with. But you got [the idea] from your knee injury.
DH: Thats right. The long story is that I got invited to Apples launch of OS X. Its X, X-Files. They brought the Gunmen in. We got drunk and had a huge party. We had the raffles. We got drunk with the engineers. They started telling me everything thats wrong with it. With the G4s, the Titaniums, the G5s that were coming out. That heat was going to be a problem. Heat was the byproduct of these computers getting thinner and faster. So sure enough, they give me a gift. A lovely G4 Titanium to take home. Im watching a movie on it, and sure enough, within one hour into the movie, the whole thing locks up. At the same time, I had a knee injury and I had a cold gel-pack on my knee. I moved the laptop to my knee to start something else, and the movie started playing again. Just like that. I thought, What the hell? I did courses in physics and electrothermal dynamics. So I went, Of course. Heat transference. Heats not in the process of work again. So I went, Watson, come here. I need you.
K2K: Whats the basis of the Chill Pak? Whats it made out of?
DH: Inside, its a polymer cellulose gel, that actually retains heat longer than ice, because theres no phase change. When you freeze ice, and it starts melting, that phase change releases faster. Cold dissipates way too quick. With the polymer gel, it actually retains the cold much longer. So this lasts one to four hours, whereas with ice, when it melts, goes right away. The surface is used in the medical industry to transfer organs, so that the organs stay cold. But if they get wet, they start rotting. This is the way to do dry-cold transfer. The bottom is an insulator.
K2K: How would you use Chill Pak for a cross-country air trip?
DH: What you do is put it in the freezer, for an hour or so. Were making a special bag as an insulator. You through that in there, so that when you get to your plane, it will still be cold. You bring your laptop for a four-hour flight, you can edit while youre flying and have your presentation ready by the time you get to New York.
K2K: Is it available currently?
DH: Yes it is. At ChillPak.com - http://www.chillpak.com Its spelled P-A-K. We have them there. Were getting a series of distributors around the country so they should be in stores by the end of .
K2K: Have you shown this at CES yet?
DH: No, because they charge a lot for a booth. So were waiting to get our next level of investment capital out together. Any investors out there? Maybe CES this year, but for sure the next.
K2K: What are you doing at Comic Con? Are you promoting Chill Pak or just hanging out?
DH: Ive got some friends here. Just hanging out. Everyone always wants an autograph who didnt get one years ago. Theres the comic book. I also have a film production company, so Im meeting up with other filmmakers and writers and getting that together.
K2K: Youve also worked for companies like Coca-Cola, right?
DH: Yes. I would do corporate trade shows, on stage. You know when they would have their annual general meetings, they would often have some comedic entertainment. So we would often write hilarious musical numbers and comedy sketch shows that would be about the years problems. I believe with Coca-Cola, it was the launch of Power-Ade. I was Hans & Franz rip-offs. We came in on a dragster. When the dragster took off, we both fell off the thing. Power-Ade will pump you up.
K2K: And hilarity ensued. How many patents do you currently hold?
DH: I hold three for this one [Chill Pak]. Theres three different elements in there. But we have more. But patents are expensive. They start at $5,000.
K2K: What else have you got coming down the pike? What else have you invented?
DH: Well, weve got something for eye strain? Peoples eyes are strained when they look at the computer monitor because theyre not blinking as often. So were coming up with a problem that will relieve that.
K2K: Um, would that be called, eye drops?
DH: (laughs) No. That doesnt make you blink more. This is a whole other thing.
K2K: Electroshock therapy, perhaps, to induce eye-blinking?
DH: Hey! Patent office.
K2K: Are you talking about a blink-inducer?
DH: Yes, a blink-inducer.
K2K: What else?
DH: Were working on something for carpal tunnel. Often when you get carpal tunnel, they tell you not to type anymore. Were working on something that will allow that. Ive done a lot of body work over the years, due to my knee injury. So theres something that will be built into the keyboard that will reduce carpal tunnel.
K2K: How do you like Comic Con?
DH: Love it! This is my seventh year. I see all my friends here every year. Some years I sell and have a table, some years I just hang out.
K2K: Isnt it nice to know that you always meet new friends here? I have friends from all over the world here.
DH: I know! Yeah! Exactly.
K2K: Theres talk that its getting too big. What do you think?
DH: Whats too big? Everyones getting into their cliques, right? There you have anime. Disney fans. Theres Poison Ivy. I dont know what that is. (Pointing around the hall.)
K2K: Masquerade Ball.
DH: Masquerade Ball, which Ive only been to once. But its like a little city that forms these little factions. It would be a shame to tear that all apart and throw it to the wind.
K2K: But a lot of people - celebs and fans - dont like it because, theyve said, its too hard to meet up with people. I have no problem with running into people, but others do. Some think its too hard to see everything.
DH: Yeah, but thats the idea that you can see everything. You come back next year. You split it up into two years.
K2K: So weve pretty much talked about everything here. The X-Files. Maybe a new Lone Gunmen. Maybe?
DH: Maybe. Hush, hush. Go to my website. Say no more. Wink, wink.
K2K: Well, its like the Marvel [Comics] universe, no one ever really dies.
DH: No one dies in science fiction. Thats right.
K2K: Where can people see your standup comedy?
DH: Well, if youre in Scotland this weekend, Ill be at the Edinburgh French Festival. After that, Ill be in Vancouver at GateCon, the largest Stargate convention. Then Ill be at Dragon Con in Atlanta, GA. After that my next standup will be in October somewhere. Then Im shooting a movie in Rome. Oh, New Years Eve, Kansas City (KS) at Stanford & Sons. Kansas City, New Years Eve. Thats probably a good place. (http://www.stanfordscomedyclub.com)
K2K: Do you ever perform in LA to hang out?
DH: Well, LA, its like 9,000 comics live there. So when they do stage time, everybody gets five minutes. My show is like an hour arc. Its the story of the X-Files. So its kind of a drag to do five minutes and then, Hey, thanks for coming. I rarely do the five minute spots.
K2K: Final thoughts?
DH: Id like to thank everyone for supporting the Chill Pak, and my website, visit me on MySpace, listen to the Podcast. My website is - http://www.deanhaglund.com, also http://www.chillpak.com. My Podcast - From The Heart Of Hollywood talks about movie and pop culture. Its hilarious. Me and Phil Leirness. You can check that out at - http://www.fromtheheartofhollywood.com. And MySpace, Facebook, Im there. Im slow at responding, but Im there.
K2K: Do you respond to peoples emails?
DH: Oh yeah. It takes me two to three months, but I get there. I mean, theres tons of emails. Im still swamped. Its great.
K2K: Youve had a good career with this.
DH: Its been awesome.
K2K: You know how some get angry for being stereotyped.
DH: Please. Its been a gift.
K2K: You seem genuinely happy with everything thats come your way.
DH: Its totally awesome! Are you kidding? Who wouldnt want that. Totally.
K2K: Thanks a lot.
DH: Thank you.
And with that, we finally let Dean go to get dinner, as the convention was calming down for an hour before the Masquerade Ball crowd would be filling in.
Philip Anderson is a musician, in addition to being a writer/photographer. He has performed as a guitarist/vocalist, as well as songwriter, in several bands over the past 20 years. As a writer and photographer, he has been published by several magazines and in several books, and had his works appear on television.
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